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September 2014
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More from National Review writer Kevin Williamson on capital punishment for women who have had abortions (and for the doctors that provide them). Pro-lifers, take note: This is what would happen when you “abolish abortion.”

Is this pro-life, followers?

September 2014
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You cannot be Orthodox/Catholic and pro-choice. 

questionmarksonmywrist:

disabledprochoice:

forthecatholicgirls:

nightmaremoan:

Tell that to pre-schism Saint Brigid, who performed an abortion as a miracle. This political issue has only been adopted by Christianity in recent years, it’s not based in doctrine at all and is entirely cultural. There…

I haven’t talked to anyone of the Catholic hierarchy about abortion, but I have with my Grandma, who went to Catholic school from kindergarten until the second year of college (then she started at a public college, got married then got her degree) and goes to church every Sunday and has taught me more about my faith than anyone else and she’s 100% Pro Choice. She has taught me of both what it means to be a Catholic and what it means to be a Feminist. She was telling me about getting birth control after she and my grandfather had four kids in five years, because they didn’t need to have more children, and probably shouldn’t have, this was before Griswold v Connecticut was decided and she said that her doctor’s brother was a priest and the doctor ran it by his brother first and the doctor’s priest brother said that birth control was okay.

^^boosting for this great, brave story. I have a similar story about my devout Catholic grandmother and me. xx

September 2014
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You cannot be Orthodox/Catholic and pro-choice.

disabledprochoice:

forthecatholicgirls:

nightmaremoan:

Tell that to pre-schism Saint Brigid, who performed an abortion as a miracle. This political issue has only been adopted by Christianity in recent years, it’s not based in doctrine at all and is entirely cultural. There are many pro-choice Christians from all denominations. 

Re-blogging for the commentary.

Preach^^^ I’ve met catholic priests who stand by abortion, don’t you dare tell me it’s against the catholic religion.

^^^Re-blogging for commentary. You’re awesome.

September 2014
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You cannot be Orthodox/Catholic and pro-choice.

whollyhwojo:

forthecatholicgirls:

nightmaremoan:

Tell that to pre-schism Saint Brigid, who performed an abortion as a miracle. This political issue has only been adopted by Christianity in recent years, it’s not based in doctrine at all and is entirely cultural. There are many pro-choice Christians from all denominations. 

Re-blogging for the commentary.

I’m Catholic and I’m pro choice. What do I not exist? Am I finally the enigma I always dreamed of being?

Pro-choice Catholics exist. You tell ‘em!

September 2014
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National Review writer says people who have abortions should be hanged.  This is what being pro-life has become. 

National Review writer says people who have abortions should be hanged.  This is what being pro-life has become. 

September 2014
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You cannot be Orthodox/Catholic and pro-choice. 

in-their-midst:

pyroinsanity:

forthecatholicgirls:

imafeministanddamnproud:

forthecatholicgirls:

cr0w13y:

varangoi:

yokosukababy:

forthecatholicgirls:

thefirstdayofourlives:

0cchi-luminosi:

I’m Roman Catholic and pro choice.

^^

pro-choice catholics like me beg to differ from this opinion.

Beg to differ all you want.

The Catholic Church is based in the…

You cannot be a pro-choice Catholic. If you claim to be so then you are an apostate. If you really think you’re in the right, give us your name, a photograph and your diocese so that your self-excommunication can be made formal.

Good luck excommunicating every pro-choice Catholic from the Church…it may take awhile!

Do you (OP) really believe in and follow every single catholic teaching ever? You cannot pick and choose which ones are worth lambasting others over.

Additionally, through Catholic Social Teachings, there are numerous ways in which being pro-choice could actually be defended. For example, preferential option for the poor provides Catholics with understanding of how to care for those in poverty, and pregnancy is certainly expensive, childbirth is expensive, there is no paid maternity leave in the US, and let alone the cost of raising a child. There are resources for those who can’t afford pregnancy/children and other options, but they aren’t right or even viable for many people.

Reblogging for the commentary. I struggle to see how being pro-life these days is actually being for life. It’s being anti-abortion without thinking about the consequences. To apply Catholic Social Teachings to the current, modern world, being pro-choice actually makes more sense. Catholics, of course, are called to serve the poor and alleviate poverty and the suffering that comes with it— that can also mean now advocating for birth control. I believe it’s been well-established that when women have access and the tools to plan their pregnancies, they are less likely to live in poverty, more likely to be healthy, and have a much better quality of life. Sounds like all good things to me.

xx

Let’s not leave out of the fact a lot of Catholicism comes from Judaism, where it’s a SIN for a woman not to receive an abortion if her health is in danger.

Let’s not forget the fact that Catholics and Christians in general do not follow the old law, but the new law as given to us in the New Testament.

It will always be a sin to commit murder.
Abortion kills an innocent child in the womb. Abortion is murder and therefore a sin. Do not twist scripture to suit your own agenda.

Let’s not forget abortion is not in scripture. You are twisting it to apply “murder” to fetuses in a woman’s uterus. That’s not in scripture.

xx

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You cannot be Orthodox/Catholic and pro-choice.

nightmaremoan:

Tell that to pre-schism Saint Brigid, who performed an abortion as a miracle. This political issue has only been adopted by Christianity in recent years, it’s not based in doctrine at all and is entirely cultural. There are many pro-choice Christians from all denominations. 

Re-blogging for the commentary.

September 2014
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September 2014
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Wendy Davis Doesn’t Need Your Opinions On Her Abortion

I think what I learned today from this National Review/Wendy Davis disaster is no one listens to women* who have had abortions, especially when their narratives aren’t the ones they want to hear.

But you know what was one of the first things we learned about in Catholic youth group way back when? How to be an active listener

September 2014
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Friendly reminder that the reason you had an abortion is your reason alone, and you don’t need to justify or prove it to a white, male “journalist” writing for the National Review Online. 

September 2014
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Reproductive Justice

Reproductive Justice is the complete physical, mental, spiritual, political, social, and economic well-being of women and girls, based on the full achievement and protection of women’s human rights:

(1) the right to have a child; (2) the right not to have a child; and (3) the right to parent the children we have, as well as to control our birthing options, such as midwifery. We also fight for the necessary enabling conditions to realize these rights. [x]

September 2014
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Anonymous asked

How on earth does Abby Johnson go from PP director (who was described by colleagues as very pro-choice) to pro-life extremist? I feel like she has some kind of hidden agenda...

pro-choice-or-no-voice:

Oh but we are all pretty sure she did. Short story? She was doing very bad at her job and “switched teams” knowing she could create and uproar and a name for herself, she was promised security on the “other side” and took it. That’s about it. All of her claims have been proven false, but if you want to read more about it, we have a whole tag on her  -cylina

September 2014
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Anonymous asked

I do thank you for this blog, because it does have some interesting discussion, but have you ever wondered why the church teaches what it teaches? And maybe try to see why the church and its people really should follow through with what it teaches. I identify myself as a Catholic feminist.I feel empowered through the churches teachings towards sexuality. I would personally like to see more of those stories on here as well, because having just one side of the story is not enough.

Hi, thank you so much for reading! Glad to have you here. I do identify as a Catholic feminist as well, except I don’t identify with the Church’s “new feminism” for various reasons: I’m wary of any feminism created by a man, and I also don’t believe in a feminism that reinforces gender roles—especially one that’s so rooted in biological essentialism, and uses your biological make-up to define your cultural role (and place) in society. In almost all ways, that’s the antithesis of feminism. This is not saying that I want female supremacy, or that you can’t be feminine, or that I’m totally rejecting so-called “womanhood”; it’s that “womanhood” is a spectrum, not a monolith. It’s not defined by the possibility of marriage and bearing children, which is what the Church emphasizes. (I’m not sure if you identify with new feminism, but since that’s what the Church states as feminism I want to make it clear.)

My goal here is to not only have a pro-choice space, but also to show that feminism doesn’t have to be antithetical to the Catholic Church. Too many times, I have heard young women saying they left the Church because they were “too feminist.” I call these women the “bad Catholic girls,” and I am one of them. However, I don’t think we’re really as bad as people say we are—and I’ll get back to that.

Have I ever wondered why the Church teaches what it teaches? All the time! I’ve been wondering this ever since I was a 10-year-old altar server. I had just served Mass and was changing in the sacristy when three elderly women came up to me and said, “We just wanted to tell you how happy we are to see a girl on the altar.” I didn’t realize how much it meant to them for a long time but boy, did I think about.

I don’t know how long you’ve been reading, but I’ve also stated on here that I used to be very pro-life, having marched in the March on Life in Washington, D.C. I remember seeing middle-age women with red tape over their mouths, rocking back and forth. Silent. At the time, I thought, How sad, these poor women who had abortions. Now, I still think how sad, but for a different reason: Look how the Church has failed them. Pained them. Silenced them. They were also bad Catholic girls.

So, here’s my problem with new feminism and the Church’s teaching on women: Although new feminism strives to make women complimentary to men, it also creates divisions among Catholic women. It fails to see “womanhood” as a spectrum, fails to take into account lived experiences, and ignores other innate or learned gifts and abilities women may have. To be a Catholic women, you want marriage and children—and this is the highest attainment. These are good Catholic girls. 

I don’t want to get married. It’s not my calling. I’m in a very committed relationship, but wife was never a title for me. But for many people in my Church, this has negated all the work I’ve done with my diocese and beyond. I’m a bad Catholic girl. 

I can also sympathize with women who are childless by choice. It’s not selfish; in fact, having kids just to please God is. My aunt and uncle have been happily married for over 40 years, never had kids; my aunt was a teacher for decades, and those were “her kids.” I would side-eye anyone who tried to tell me their marriage isn’t very Catholic or wrong in the eyes of the Lord. 

I’m happy you felt empowered by the Church’s teachings on sexuality. I didn’t, although I do follow many of the teachings on modesty and enjoy it (thanks, Mom!) And it’s not because I wanted to have “all the sex” and what not, but because I realized I didn’t know myself and my body. Now, I’m not that confused because I don’t let my sexuality define me—and that’s the thing. Sexuality doesn’t define you. Your relationship status doesn’t define you. Your mother or childless status doesn’t define you. And none of that defines your relationship with God—or the Church, for that matter. Your work, your service, your mission, your ideas, your compassion, your peace—that defines you. And none of that has to do with you using a condom in the bedroom.

So, here’s what I believe in a nutshell: There’s no such thing as good Catholic girls and bad Catholic girls. They’re the same woman. 

xx

P.S. You can certainly submit a post on your views!

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September 2014
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youngfeministkilljoy:

there are pro-choice Catholics

there are LGBT Catholics (and Catholics who support them)

there are Catholics who have had abortions

there are a million different Catholics

We exist and just because you tell us we can’t be Catholic doesn’t mean you’re right. You do not define our faith.